44.1 kHz is slowly reaching its end

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Re: 44.1 kHz is slowly reaching its end

Postby Lyberta » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:20 am

protozone wrote:Formats are kinda fun, though. When you find something good. I even use TTA sometimes (TrueType Audio). It's brilliant. You could have 256 channels of 96 kHz lossless PCM in that one file, I think.


WAV can have 65535 channels of 65535 bit at 4,294,967,295 Hz (4.3 gigahertz). The byterate would be 2.3 exabytes (2,300,000 terabytes) per second.

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Re: 44.1 kHz is slowly reaching its end

Postby 42low » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:15 am

Michael Willis wrote:
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protozone wrote:I sure hope MP3 dies before 44.1 :lol:

Forget it. It will never die. Otherwise a lot off players could be thrown away.

Forget it, 8 track/floppy disks/VHS/zip drives/cassettes will never die. Otherwise a lot of software/music/movies could be thrown away.

Right Michael. Nothing will totally die.
We once started with 22khz waves, and even those still can be played on the better nowadays gear.
With digital audio new will simply be implemented next to old.

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Re: 44.1 kHz is slowly reaching its end

Postby Michael Willis » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:00 pm

42low wrote:Nothing will totally die.

Right, I was mostly being silly. Digital formats are very different from the physical media. Ultimately I think that produced music will be distributed in a different format, but players will continue to support mp3 as a legacy format.

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stayin' alive stayin' alive

Postby protozone » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:09 pm

Lyberta wrote:
protozone wrote:Formats are kinda fun, though. When you find something good. I even use TTA sometimes (TrueType Audio). It's brilliant. You could have 256 channels of 96 kHz lossless PCM in that one file, I think.


WAV can have 65535 channels of 65535 bit at 4,294,967,295 Hz (4.3 gigahertz). The byterate would be 2.3 exabytes (2,300,000 terabytes) per second.


Wow, that's amazing.
I didn't realise it had progressed to that level of sophistication.
It's been a while since I've read about that type of thing. Is that broadcast WAV format, or just regular WAV?

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Re: 44.1 kHz is slowly reaching its end

Postby 42low » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:25 pm

Michael Willis wrote:Right, I was mostly being silly.

Wasn't that silly at all Michael. :wink:

Michael Willis wrote:Forget it, 8 track/floppy disks/VHS/zip drives/cassettes will never die. Otherwise a lot of software/music/movies could be thrown away.

8-track. Highly popular among some. Even some famous hit-producing bands grab back on 8-track recordings nowadays.
Cassettes. Also back. Perhaps by some named the "lp-revival wannabees", but i wish i would have kept all my high quality tapes TDK like the MAX types and all the others (metal ballanced and so). But thrown all away then... Look at those prices! https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds ... e&_fosrp=1 Mannnn if i still had them and could sell them i could easily buy me a new gibson or fender. Thrown away :cry:
LP-revival. For about 10 years already?

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Postby Lyberta » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:01 am

protozone wrote:Wow, that's amazing.
I didn't realise it had progressed to that level of sophistication.
It's been a while since I've read about that type of thing. Is that broadcast WAV format, or just regular WAV?


Actually, it was since the beginning. Number of channels and bit depth are stored as 16 bit integers and sample rate as 32 bit one. The main limitation is that the file size is stored as 32 bit integer which limits it at 4 GiB. WAV64 fixes this.

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Re: 44.1 kHz is slowly reaching its end

Postby protozone » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:14 pm

wow, thanks.

@42low, those prices of cassettes really are astounding.
I used to use chrome and metal tapes all the time! ($2-$5 each I think? back then)


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